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Friday, August 24, 2007
The Critic Should 23 Skidoo
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Just ghastly. Will these daily pwnings never cease?
War is hell.
Agreed. The Blog Wars show no sign of abatement.
23 Skidoo is an American slang popularized in the early Twentieth Century (first appearing before World War I and becoming popular in the Roaring Twenties). It generally refers to leaving quickly. One nuance of the phrase suggests being rushed out by someone else. Another is taking advantage of a propitious opportunity to leave, that is, "getting out while the getting is good."
lol uber pwned
**Cross posted in the Nazi's blog**
Now that TSZ has been exposed and run away, perhaps one of these parody blogs could be rejigged to discuss the real issues that are causing a decline in quality in PS contests.
Like, for instance, the poor quality of 'O's that are getting greenlit. Or the rarity of quality themes (or the overabundance of the nod-and-a-wink Fark related themes). Or the fact that having a huge queue with three contests a day is diluting the pool of quality shoppers. Or that the good quality shoppers are leaving because of the petty bitchiness caused by the critic and his goons. Or that Drew and co really don't seem to give a sh*t about Fark PS anymore.
The Roger Mexicos and grampys and all the other critic targets are just a symptom of a disease that may be beyond a cure. Maybe some energies and debate could be focussed on these problems instead of chasing shadows.
When was TheSniperZERO officially exposed as the Critic? I miss all the good stuff. Backstory, please.
perhaps one of these parody blogs could be rejigged to discuss the real issues that are causing a decline in quality in PS contests.
I'd really like to do that... I actually like Blogger now. It's not so bad once you get past the fact that it's really easy to slander each other on here. I think now we're more aware of how easy it is to pull puppet strings (VERY easy).
poor quality of 'O's that are getting greenlit
Ok, I've done some thinking about this. Who is submitting the bulk of this stuff? It can't be PSers. Maybe there's a guy with a huge stack of jumping pics that he somehow keeps getting greenlit. I personally am not a submitter. And the iPhone contest: no disrespect to whoever set that up, but no. NO COMMERCIALS ON FARK PLEASE. I know that's not what the intention is. However I'm sure we all know by now that it's not the intention, but the result that matters. Plus tiny O's are teh suXXorz. And a "beginner" contest? How do I know when I'm a beginner? How do I know when I'm not?
Or the rarity of quality themes (or the overabundance of the nod-and-a-wink Fark related themes).
Yeah, if we want to cut down on cliche abuse, we gotta nix the Fark themes. Personally, I have had a few ideas for themes that would have rocked, but for whatever reason the headline didn't "sell" the link and the admin passed it over. Maybe if we got together here and fleshed out our ideas a little more before submitting (are we allowed to do that?) At any rate, I'm not a math guy, but it stands to reason that if a group of us collaberate or at least reslove to only submit themes we might have a slightly larger chance. But then it might be a 2 in hundred shot as opposed to a 1 in a hundred shot. So plan your day accordingly. Still, don't see any reason why we can't bounce ideas around, at least until the mods bust in and smash up our little speakeasy.
Or the fact that having a huge queue with three contests a day is diluting the pool of quality shoppers.
God that has fucked everything up. I think most vets will agree that ol' Sidebar Que is SORELY missed. I personally hold a candlelight vigil every third thursday of the month. I don't like liters seeing the themes beforehand (damned filthy proles). Lots of them don't have the consideration to not enable voting if beat to the punch.
Or that the good quality shoppers are leaving because of the petty bitchiness caused by the critic and his goons
Are they? Honestly I've been so caught up in the Blog Wars... But yeah, you're right. I just wonder where they escaped to that was so great. Are we going to stumble onto a lost enclave of Fark ex-patriates? That actually would be pretty cool. Petty bitchiness sucks. I mean there's SO much of it in the meat world. Don't they want to escape that?
Or that Drew and co really don't seem to give a sh*t about Fark PS anymore.
Ok, I don't want you guys to go spreading this around, b/c honestly it's embarrassing to our community. I've noted before at TFPSTC that I had the occasion to meet Mike and Drew. I'm not dropping names here, they just did a huge book tour, and I'm sure lots of us PSers got to meet them. At least those of us shill enough to purchase the book, lol...
Anyway, message to all listening: they DON'T like us. They don't read our forum, or give two shits about our opinions. They think we take too much ownership of THEIR site (ex: site re-design bitchiness). Their opinion (admittedly after a few beers) was that we think of ourselves as mini-mods. I think perhaps some of us DO think that.
The Fark Boys don't HAVE to care about our opinion. If every single one of us left tommorrow, there'd be a new crop of manglers in the que by monday. They don't have to care if the stuff wins awards. They just have to keep it moving. And they do. And we bitch. And they don't read our forum. Circle of life, baby...
Not saying I speak for them, but you can believe I'm not distorting the conversation. I had to pretend to dislike the PSAEF and felt dirty afterwards. Sorry for the comment length here...
Anonymous said...
When was TheSniperZERO officially exposed as the Critic? I miss all the good stuff. Backstory, please.
Breaking news... Ok, well Critic first claimed to be TheSniperZERO in his now defunct comments section. He also references that in a post that still stands here.
So I went over to quote him for you, and discovered hidden text in the passage. Not visible normally, but when you highlight the passage it magically appears. Pretty neat, actually. Secret message: "Fuck, you people will believe anything, wont you?"
here is the screenshot
What does this mean? This is awesome. I mean, if he wanted me to leave him alone, he shouldn't go putting secret messages in his blog.
C'mon gang, let's all pile into the Mystery Machine and go stock up on Scooby Snacks...
I always thought that was just a bit of a diversion on his part.
The real pwnage is much better. But that's all I can say for now.
lol diversions...
He's like a riddle shrouded in mystery wrapped in a shit sandwich.
I'm wondering if I should reread the whole deal now for secret clues. I don't know if my brain could take it...
Maybe if I smack my head on the pavement 72 times...
Another note about the Fark Boys take on the PSAEF: They fucking HATE the parrot thing. I guess I hit a nerve when I brought that up, because they made a big deal that contests have to be geared towards users at both ends of the spectrum. They seem to think themers are just for the big kids. I don't personally agree. I got my start in a themer afterall.
At any rate, whatever scant logic they use to to pic greens perfectly suits them. No amount of forum appeals or Farkback will change this.
I'm sorry for the harsh reality on such a lovely Saturday.
So the game, as always, is finding a way to trick them into giving us what we want while letting them think they are maintaining the status quo.
"Maybe if I smack my head on the pavement 72 times..."
You'll just see 72 virgins. Only a select few know the true extent of TSZ's self-pwnage, due to a huge screw-up on his part that didn't come from his blog.
"Who is submitting the bulk of this stuff?"
The sort of people who think that link submission is a contest itself, so they just submit anything and everything they find. Pump out a few dozen a day and you're bound to hit paydirt fairly regularly.
"Still, don't see any reason why we can't bounce ideas around, at least until the mods bust in and smash up our little speakeasy."
Why would they? Would they even know? As long as it's not being used for bitter abuse and grudges like the critic's blog, I don't see the problem.
"Are we going to stumble onto a lost enclave of Fark ex-patriates?"
I think they just move on to something else, probably changing identities along the way. I imagine Fark is some pretty heavy baggage on some of the more serious sites.
Your comments about Drew etc.
Yeah this pretty much agrees with my theories. I doubt they lose much sleep over us, and probably just wish we'd go away. And I think that's helped drive the good shoppers away as much as anything. Hell, just look at the book. Nothing about PS in it. That's a pretty big clue.
Fark PS is dying the death of a thousand cuts.
The sort of people who think that link submission is a contest itself, so they just submit anything and everything they find. Pump out a few dozen a day and you're bound to hit paydirt fairly regularly.
Damn. That means we're poisoning our own well. It's going to be tough to compete against a subby that barfs out 50 links a day.
Maybe we could compile a group of photos/themes here that we know are all gold, and barf them out in similar fashion? Just a thought...
I doubt anyone's doing anything malicious (ie: submitting bad pictures on purpose). Probably just the classic peril of the untrained eye. "This would look great/be hilarious!"
Hell, just look at the book. Nothing about PS in it.
Yeah, I asked him about that, and was given some excuse that "the pictures cost too much to reproduce." Drew told me there had been multiple appeals for such a thing. He said the ink cost too much or something. Wha? Sorry, but that sounds a bit like horseshit to me. Then again, I'm not a book publisher....
I told him he damn well better make the second book about us. They could easily make it like one of those "funny street sign" books I have. Softbound, small... it would be cheap and easy to sling together. Null sweat. But there's obviously more (copyright) issues at work.
Only a select few know the true extent of TSZ's self-pwnage, due to a huge screw-up on his part that didn't come from his blog.
Wow, that sounds like a great story. I can't even imagine a screwup bigger than his blog.
Only a select few know the true extent of TSZ's self-pwnage, due to a huge screw-up on his part that didn't come from his blog.
So fill us in already. What'd you do, sign a non-disclosure agreement?
Drew told me there had been multiple appeals for such a thing. He said the ink cost too much or something. Wha? Sorry, but that sounds a bit like horseshit to me. Then again, I'm not a book publisher....
It's actually not horeshit. Mass-producing a book with color photos is way more expensive than just B&W text.
That said, it's still entirely possible that Drew doesn't give a rat's fuck about the PS contests. Who's to say?
"...just submit anything and everything they find. Pump out a few dozen a day and you're bound to hit paydirt fairly regularly."
That might or might not have been aimed at me, but as one of the top submitters, I feel I should defend myself a little here. Note I'm not hiding behind some anonymous handle except my Fark logon like most of the other folks here.
I'll admit to submitting a lot of stuff, but it's not anything and everything. I search through several hundred images for each submission. I try to submit good quality stuff.
If more of the regular photoshoppers would start submitting good O's, we might see some improvement. Unfortunately a good percentage of the time the admins ignore the cream and serve up the dregs.
Drew certainly needs to find some admins with a little more photoshop sensibility or at least pay a little more attention to what's going on over at the PSAEF.
--Grampy
It's actually not horeshit. Mass-producing a book with color photos is way more expensive than just B&W text.
You have a point about that, especially if they wanted to get the color right. Think how much crappier some stuff looks after compression. A book with nice glossy pages would just be out of the question. Even if it got made, we'd never be happy with it. Some of us would probably get left out and rush off to start hate blogs...
The good news is that Drew said if such a book ever DOES get made, he would properly compensate us. Keep in mind this was after a few beers, lol...
I'll admit to submitting a lot of stuff, but it's not anything and everything. I search through several hundred images for each submission. I try to submit good quality stuff.
I don't think that was aimed at you per-se Grampy. Though you do have a lot of greens under your belt. Like, 6 or 7 thousand, right? You seem to have a pretty good perspective on what the admins want to see, or at least what they look for in a link. Are your submissions mostly pictures, or have you got a few themes in there? I would be really interested in hearing from anyone who knows how to set up a good theme link. So far all of mine have busted.
If more of the regular photoshoppers would start submitting good O's, we might see some improvement. Unfortunately a good percentage of the time the admins ignore the cream and serve up the dregs.
You're right. For me, I guess I get discouraged when I see a picture that looks great to me, but it gets instantly redlit. So I just stick to PSing, since i have a measure of success with that. I guess the link submission game has never fully appealed to me. But if more of us submitted good stuff we wouldn't be bitching. At least not about this.
Drew certainly needs to find some admins with a little more photoshop sensibility or at least pay a little more attention to what's going on over at the PSAEF.
Agreed. Still, if you had heard the way they balked at most of the PSAEF's ideas (ex: the photoshop admin idea) you would know that dog won't hunt. God, they actually brought up the idea of making it so you could vote for OR against an entry.
I never brought that up in the forum for fear of starting a huge flamewar, but since I stayed up two nights in a row last week calling someone whom I have never met (and who is probably older than me) a stinky poop face, what the hell? I can see the merits of vote for/against. But I can also see it as potentially horrible.
It makes me like things the way they are, I can say that much. And that's just scary.
BTW if that IS the real Grampy, thanks for stopping by. You've taken an unbelievable beating from Critty Boy and his goon squad, and suffered rude comments I'm sure they wouldn't have the balls to say in the meat world. But then who knows? People don't have much class these days.
At any rate your stuff makes me laugh, so the haters can STFU.
My comments were sort of directed at you grampy, but the fault lies more with the less than discriminating admins than yourself. By and large your 'O's are of reasonably good quality, and you understand bigger is better.
And I echo the comments of the doctor. Your stuff, while not necessarily perfect, at least makes people laugh. And you have a gentle self deprecating humor about it all. You certainly didn't deserve what you got from TSZ.
(But please get rid of Cliche City!)
Voting against entries? That's idiotic. If you think vote whoring is bad now, watch what happens if they introduce that madness. And it would just cause us to fracture into even more factions. Survivor Photoshop.
Totally moronic. It gave me chills to even think about. The thought of checking on an entry, and it has LESS votes? What a stupid idea. But to an outsider, it almost looks diplomatic. Just further proof that they are not us.
FWIW, I doubt they'd seriously think about doing that. I mean, if they think we bitch now...
I guess my submission ratio of themes to photos is about 1:10 or thereabouts. The recent "Le Farque" contest was mine. I will admit (ducking my head) to submitting the kid on the couch however...it was done as a joke, I never expected the horrible thing to get a greenlight.
As for getting rid of Cliche City, ain't gonna happen for the time being anyway. Interestingly enough I was looking at the stats today and 90% of the hits are coming from GIS...so the folks are searching for cliches there, not just browsing my aisles. I suspect if they didn't get them from me they'd just keep on searching till they found what they were looking for.
One thing I am going to loose is the stupid Google Ads. I've had them on since I started the site and haven't made the first penny.
--Grampy
Grampy said:
I guess my submission ratio of themes to photos is about 1:10 or thereabouts. The recent "Le Farque" contest was mine.
I liked that one. I didn't win by any stretch of the imagination, but I like themes that force me to operate outside my "zone."
I will admit (ducking my head) to submitting the kid on the couch however...it was done as a joke, I never expected the horrible thing to get a greenlight.
HA! You can even get greenlit by accident...
At this point I'm wondering if time of day has anything to do with getting greenlit. Do you remember what time you subbed that one?
As for getting rid of Cliche City, ain't gonna happen for the time being anyway.
Good. I know its positive impact has been debated, but I think it serves as a good site of historical record. It's like a flow chart of inside jokes. The only serious problem I see is the Gatekeeper Theory as it applies to what is considered a cliche and what isn't. But then if you're going to pay to keep the City up, you shouldn't have to run it's residents by committee for approval.
Interestingly enough I was looking at the stats today and 90% of the hits are coming from GIS...so the folks are searching for cliches there, not just browsing my aisles.
RLY? I suspected as much, honestly. Regardless of what you may feel about the City, it's a great site for quality cliche source pics.
I suspect if they didn't get them from me they'd just keep on searching till they found what they were looking for.
My dealer says the same thing, lol. Bless both of you. At any rate, all cliches used in my cliche tutorial were gleaned from the City. Except for Roger Mexico's Wife. Is that a cliche yet?
One thing I am going to loose is the stupid Google Ads. I've had them on since I started the site and haven't made the first penny.
lol ecommerce
Just another Farker said...
Drew and co really don't seem to give a sh*t about Fark PS anymore.
I'm new to Fark and hadn't heard of the Photoshop Honor Roll until a few months ago when it was mentioned it in the PSAEF. Rather than reveal my ignorance in the photoshop forum, I left a question about it in farkback. My response was from Drew himself. He was very pleasant, but basically his answer was "..there are sites that keeps track of photoshop statistics, but I don't have the links. Sorry.".
FWIW
Wow, you got a response from Farkback? You must be living right. I've sent Farkback a few times and never heard back.
FWIW, Drew was very polite to me in person, even making sure to shake my hand when he left.
I would say he's about as good to us PSers as he could be without being a PSer himself.
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